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Re: I've Lost My History List etc!

Adding/changing a printer driver is definitely not the culprit, but
clearly _something_ changed in yoiur configuration.  The symptoms you
describe suggest that perhaps you are inadvertently invoking command.com
instead of 4DOS, and before you spend too much time on this, you may
want to execute a "VER /R" to check.

If you _are_ under 4DOS (5.52 is the current version, FYI), and your key
assignments are as you describe, then you may have a nasty
memory/console corruption problem perhaps best isolated by comparing
your "before" and "after" configuration files.  You _do_ have a usable
backup so that you can see what changed, right? :-)

If you’re still "stuck", feel free to contact supp…@jpsoft.com with
specific (yet concise) details.

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Andrew McKay wrote:

> Hope someone here can help a bit….

> I’ve been an avid 4Dos user for some years now, and have become
> accustomed to many of the little time-saving features. However, a
> couple of those just dropped dead on me and I’d like to know if it
> would be possible to get them back.

> The things that are now "different" are:

> 1) No history list at all. No arrow/page up/down. F3 works to get the
> last command back, just as normal Dos does.
> 2) No F9 filename completion.
> 3) Press Escape partway thru entering a command, the cursor positions
> itself halfway across the screen – kills the command, but…

> All these things have been working in my (registered) v5.51 for a long
> time, but they seemed to go belly-up when I installed a new Panasonic
> KX-P6500 printer. I didn’t change anything else about the config, that
> change is as far as I recall the only one.

> If I boot into 4Dos without entering Win95 then I get my history list
> and other behaviour exactly as I’m used to – I only note these
> problems from within a 4Dos shell (and it has always worked reliably
> before this darn printer got installed).

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4 Responses to “Re: I've Lost My History List etc!”

  1. admin says:

    Hope someone here can help a bit….

    I’ve been an avid 4Dos user for some years now, and have become
    accustomed to many of the little time-saving features. However, a
    couple of those just dropped dead on me and I’d like to know if it
    would be possible to get them back.

    The things that are now "different" are:

    1) No history list at all. No arrow/page up/down. F3 works to get the
    last command back, just as normal Dos does.
    2) No F9 filename completion.
    3) Press Escape partway thru entering a command, the cursor positions
    itself halfway across the screen – kills the command, but…

    All these things have been working in my (registered) v5.51 for a long
    time, but they seemed to go belly-up when I installed a new Panasonic
    KX-P6500 printer. I didn’t change anything else about the config, that
    change is as far as I recall the only one.

    If I boot into 4Dos without entering Win95 then I get my history list
    and other behaviour exactly as I’m used to – I only note these
    problems from within a 4Dos shell (and it has always worked reliably
    before this darn printer got installed).

    Any suggestions?

    Andrew

  2. admin says:

    On Sun, 18 May 1997 08:26:31 -0500, Mike Bessy <supp…@jpsoft.com>
    wrote:

    >Adding/changing a printer driver is definitely not the culprit, but
    >clearly _something_ changed in yoiur configuration.  The symptoms you
    >describe suggest that perhaps you are inadvertently invoking command.com
    >instead of 4DOS, and before you spend too much time on this, you may
    >want to execute a "VER /R" to check.

    Nope, definitely 4Dos. VER /R tells me that 4Dos is running, besides
    which DOS 7 (the usual Win95 COMMAND.COM) doesn’t do brightly coloured
    directory listings in lowercase, or show me which shell number I’m in
    on my 4Dos prompt. And it’s none too bright about running BTM files
    containing a sprinkling of 4Dos commands either – my Win95 shell does
    all those things so I’m pretty sure that I’ve got a 4Dos shell.

    As for installing a new printer driver, I reckon this Panasonic driver
    is a bit more than some dumb driver – it comes on 4 HD diskettes, and
    wants every one of them during installation because it installs its
    own printer console. This thing sets itself up as a server on our 2-PC
    network, and I think obviously pokes around in Win95 capturing ports
    and so on so that it can be used in either GDI or PCL mode. I have
    this awful feeling (though I’d be out of my depth on this one) that it
    tinkers around with some interrupt chains, and perhaps one of those
    chains is the one that 4Dos tries to cling on to for dealing with
    certain keystrokes – the fact that arrow/page up/down aren’t having
    the desired effect tells me that these keystrokes aren’t getting thru.

    >If you _are_ under 4DOS (5.52 is the current version, FYI), and your key
    >assignments are as you describe, then you may have a nasty
    >memory/console corruption problem perhaps best isolated by comparing
    >your "before" and "after" configuration files.  You _do_ have a usable
    >backup so that you can see what changed, right? :-)

    I just downloaded/installed 5.52 this afternoon. Exact same problem
    (and VER /R reports 4Dos 5.52 so I’m not fooling myself with this
    one).

    As for backups, yes I did have those and they were compared. No
    obvious signs of problems therein. This problem only came about after
    I installed this printer setup.

    >If you’re still "stuck", feel free to contact supp…@jpsoft.com with
    >specific (yet concise) details.

    Thanks for that – I think I’m going to have to soon. I’m getting real
    fed up with punching the F9 key only to remind myself that I’ve got to
    type in the whole darn directory/filename!

    It’s weird. Things like "CD -" work fine and take me back to the last
    directory I was in – it’s just the history and filename completion
    that seems to have been clobbered, and if you think about it those
    things are dependent upon 4Dos recognising that a certain key has been
    pressed.

    Oh, one other thing I just noted – I’ve lost the F1 key for obtaining
    help – it’s gone back to entering the last command one character at a
    time, which is what you get with standard DOS.

    Andrew

  3. admin says:

    In <337eac77.52256212@localhost>, and…@spam.dumper (Andrew McKay) wrote:

    >The things that are now "different" are:

    >1) No history list at all. No arrow/page up/down. F3 works to get the
    >last command back, just as normal Dos does.
    >2) No F9 filename completion.
    >3) Press Escape partway thru entering a command, the cursor positions
    >itself halfway across the screen – kills the command, but…
    >Any suggestions?

    It sounds as though the LineInput 4dos.ini setting may be incorrect.  The
    default behaviour should be LineInput=No, which should let all the above
    things work.  If it has somehow got set to Yes, that would explain the
    symptoms.

    Alternatively, the command "setdos /l1" is the same as LineInput=No; try
    typing "setdos /l0" on the command line to see if that puts things back to
    normal.

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  4. admin says:

    On Mon, 19 May 1997 08:23:17 GMT, c…@pobox.co.uk (Chris Hall) wrote:
    >It sounds as though the LineInput 4dos.ini setting may be incorrect.  The
    >default behaviour should be LineInput=No, which should let all the above
    >things work.  If it has somehow got set to Yes, that would explain the
    >symptoms.

    >Alternatively, the command "setdos /l1" is the same as LineInput=No; try
    >typing "setdos /l0" on the command line to see if that puts things back to
    >normal.

    Thanks for the suggestions Chris – regrettably neither have changed
    the problem one iota (and incidentally this setting was correct
    before, but i tried it anyway). I tried setting it both ways, and
    neither changed anything that I could see.

    Weird, really weird.

    Andrew